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Articulo en Forbes sobre Grupper.

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Articulo en Forbes sobre Grupper.

Mensaje por Admin el Miér Sep 12, 2018 8:19 pm




Os adjunto un articulo de FORBES versión finlandesa pero escrito en ingles., en el mismo se puede leer el origen de la idea de la plataforma, la situación actual, y los próximos proyectos y objetivos que tienen.

Voy a resumir lo que considero mas importante, pero os adjunto el link original y para la posterioridad también copio el texto original.


Según explican, la idea surgió de un fracaso, el Sr, Andrejs Kisiks  inmobiliario trato de cerrar un proyecto inmobiliario prometedor que no llego a buen puerto al no poder financiar la totalidad del proyecto por rencillas comerciales y contratos de exclusividad.

El promotor ya sabia de otras plataformas en el mercado dedicadas al crowdlending pero se dio cuenta de un nicho de mercado que no estaba explotado, formo un equipo profesional sobre todo del área de IT y promotores y a principios del 2017 lanzo la plataforma.

¿que ofrecen?

Inversión desde 10 € en prestamos con garantía BuyBack ( BB) +60 días, y en algunos casos garantías adicionales.

https://www.grupeer.com/es  tiene su propia due diligence , según sus datos rechazan el 80 % de los proyectos que revisan, una estricta política de blanqueo de capitales y un seguimiento de los proyectos y su realidad física.

¿donde están ahora? 18 meses después.

En números así:

Total registered: 2734 investors ( actualizado pagina web dia 12 Sept.)
Loans placed on platform: 10 043 467EUR
Yearly average return: 14.47%
Loan maturity: up to 1 year

Teniendo a los inversores españoles como inversores referencia seguidos de los alemanes, y según un foro alemán considerada una de las 5 mejores plataformas por su entorno informático y gestión.

Posiblemente por los comentarios de los usuarios de www.crowdfunding-market.com dentro del TOP 3.

¿A donde van?

Veo que tienen varios proyectos importantes, aunque yo echo de menos uno que explicare al final.

- Trabajan en el desarrollo propio sistema de pago, entiendo que es para la aplicación rápida de las inversiones, aunque yo hasta ahora no he tenido queja.
Tendremos  que seguir su implantación pues es un tema importante.

-Introducción de cambios de divisas, entiendo que esta mas dirigido al USA y a la GBP.

-Un sistema en vivo de estadísticas, esto nos gustara a todos los amantes de estadísticas y números.

-Lanzamiento de un nuevo producto "Grupeer Stability Fund", una posibilidad de comprar un metro cuadrado (literalmente) en bienes inmobiliarios y cobrar entre un 4% /8% , este producto esta pensado para el largo plazo.

El equipo dirigido por https://www.grupeer.com/es  se ha marcado un objetivo: convertirse en un líder en el mercado de inversiones alternativas en la UE para 2020.

Aquí es donde yo echo de menos el MERCADO SECUNDARIO, si la plataforma ofreciese una salida a las inversiones de L/P, incluso con una pequeña penalizacion, creo que seria muy positivo para todos.


Bueno, os dejo con el texto integro, pues el resumen es mio propio y también podáis sacar vuestras conclusiones.


Grupeer – earning through cooperation


  • September 7, 2018




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Grupeer COO Vladislavs Filimonovs and Founders Alla Kisika and Andrejs Kisiks





Grupeer – a P2P investment platform is not only earning one of the highest interest rates for its investors – 14.47 %, but also trying to solve a bigger problem. Sure, the P2P platform is not a new phenomenon and there are several big players in the market, but unlike a faceless loan conveyer, Grupeer introduces a human factor to the industry. On the one hand, Grupeer places promising projects on its platform, who are prepared to pay above the market interest rates in order to be able to realize their dream. On the other hand, it serves as a “moderator” for investors. Many investors request an exclusivity agreement, meaning that they want to be the sole investor or product partner, but this is a serious brake on the business or project development. When many people are involved we can observe the classic “prisoner’s dilemma” from game theory, meaning, it is beneficial for everyone to cooperate, but unfortunately it rarely happens in real life. Grupeer’s mission is to solve this problem too, and just over a year Grupeer has managed to place 10 043 467 EUR in loans on its platform.
To give you an example about the minuses of exclusivity agreements, think about Apple. When the tech giant came up with iPhone, it first had an “exclusivity” agreement planned with AT&T, the US mobile carrier. However, if the agreement would go ahead in 2007, iPhone wouldn’t be the same as we know it and it would slow the sales. However, to everyone’s advantage iPhone wasn’t exclusive as the agreement was never finalized.

Legend



It all began when experienced and successful real estate developer Andrejs Kisiks was working on power plant project. His career track record included working on the development projects in different countries, winning and completing government contracts. The power plant he was working on was supposed to generate the green energy and definitely would bring high return on investment. Everything was going fine, but a hole in the budget appeared and Andrejs needed to collect additional 3-4 million in investments to complete the project. He approached his circle of friends, former colleagues and other contacts in his network. The potential investors saw how promising the project was andeveryone was prepared to contribute Eur 1-1.5 million. This is a normal business practice to pull the investments together, but what was a disappointment when all these potential investors wanted to be exclusive and backed out when learnt others would be involved. The human factor played a role and Andrejs has lost the project when time ran out. Andrejs not only didn’t lose motivation when he lost the project, but as a seasoned entrepreneur saw an opportunity in this fiasco.
When Andrejs looked at this situation soberly, he thought- “how many promising projects fail, when required sum is not collected?” That’s how an idea of Grupeer was born. Grupeer is a fintech P2P platform where investors can fund a project that satisfies their investment criteria and pull investments together from as little as Eur 10 without even seeing each other. Sure, there are already several platforms existing in the market, but Andrejs saw a niche and despite the fact that he didn’t have any IT background, he had a clear vision how the product should look like in the end and what features to offer. In other words, Andrejs is a strategist and is capable of seeing the big picture, the rest he decided to leave to professionals. He has built a team of talented IT people describing what the end product should look like, so they decided to build a brand-new platform and not to copy any existing solution in the market. The end result was much better than expected as the software was akin to high-security banking core systems. Andrejs’ sister Alla Kisika, who have spent several years working in the UK as an executive project manager in construction business, decided to participate in family venture. Besides that, they recruited professionals with impressive career track record, such as Grupeer’s COO Vladislavs Filimonovs, who previously worked in senior positions in PayPal and Mastercard. After around a year of hard work, Grupeer was officially launched in February 2017.

Welcome to safe environment



So, how does it work? All loans offered on Grupeer’s platform are issued by business professionals, and when а client invests any amount (starting with Eur 10) into particular loan, the claim right on this loan payments transfers to the investor via cession agreement. Unlike other platforms, Grupeer offers multiple products on its platform- credit deals, development projects and soon the new product will be launched. If the payment for the loan is late for 60 days, then the buyback is triggered when the loan originator is obliged to BuyBack the loan and pay out all accrued, but not paid interest. For additional peace of mind some loans are secured by collateral.
The Grupeer did not only design and operate the platform, but also created a “safe environment” for investors, who can relax when invest their own money and be sure that Grupeer “did the homework for them”. Grupeer does its own strict due diligence of every project and partner that approaches the platform for funding. It includes auditing the financial statements, and checking, if the projects are actually taking place in the real life and making sure the loan originator is capable of satisfying BuyBack guarantee. Due to such strict procedures approximately 80% of the projects are dismissed and never offered to clients. Additionally, Grupeer has a strict AML (anti money laundering) procedures in place.

What’s the difference?



One of the key advantages that Grupeer offers is diversification – on the platform investors can find business loans aimed at financing various business activities and real estate projects which fund the construction of residential and commercial properties. Besides loan types, the diversification is in different geographical locations, be it local Latvian deals or Norwegian real estate financing. The high interest rate is based on the types of borrowers – usually they have short track record, so it is hard for them to get the traditional financing, but Grupeer aims to find jewel project and help to bring their idea to life. Sure, the companies can be young, but the professionals behind them have a solid track record in their professional area.
The uniqueness of Grupeer is based on their customer centric approach, as they position themselves as “human company”. It is mirrored in their relations with employees and active conversation with investors to understand what they really require and what can be improved.

The investor profile



Despite the recent presence in the P2P market, Grupeer has a lot of good reviews on specialized forums and publications. Current and potential clients are actively discussing advantages and disadvantages, and Grupeer is actively participating. A famous German blog p2p-banking has conducted a survey where P2P investors rated their favorite platform and Grupeer was among the top 5. Surprisingly, Spain by far is the biggest investor country on the platform. One of the explanations is that the Spanish clients trust more alternative investment platforms than their local banks for investments. Second comes famous German savers. A pleasant surprise is that UK customers are also quite active without special targeted marketing and absence of possibility to invest in GBP. Currently, customers are 95% private and 5% are legal entities.

Goal



Grouper is currently working on development of its own payment system, so in the future the deposits by investors will instantly be available for investment. Additionally, Grupeer has plans to introduce a currency exchange on the platform which will convert major currencies based on market spot rate. Grupeer is also developing a centralized hub on their website, with live data so that the clients can transparently see the statistics. Lastly, in the near future Grupeer plans to launch an innovate product- “Grupeer Stability Fund”- a possibility to buy a square meter (literally) in real estate, with a simple click of the button. This way an investor will be an owner of a fraction in the office building or any other development project and will receive a stable rental income from 4% to 8% yearly (which already generates income. This option is perfect for investors with long term horizon. Many people want to benefit from stability investments in real estate offer, but don’t have desired amount, but “Grupeer Stability Fund” will solve this problem.
Grupeer’s target-driven team has set a goal – to become a leader in the alternative investment market in the EU by 2020. This is an ambitious plan, but small steps already taken. Pulled investment can help achieve big goals, but exclusive investment agreements can actually hurt the business, so it looks like the fintech platform has a lot of potential in the future.
 
Total registered: 2426 investors
Loans placed on platform: 10 043 467EUR
Yearly average return: 14.47%
Loan maturity: up to 1 year



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Mensaje por Ragagu el Miér Sep 12, 2018 9:44 pm

Basta con que se lo sugieras ADMIN y fijo que toman nota. Eso ya sería la caña, tener un market place secundario o, como dices en tu post, que recompraran tu participación con descuento.

La verdad es que estoy la mar de contentos con ellos. Nada de barbecho, magnífica rentabilidad y, por ahora, cero problemas. Ya podrían aprender nuestros queridos emprendedores del cronwdfunding/lending españoles de esta gente. ASumen un riesgo, sí, porque respaldan con BB pero en general son préstamos inmobiliarios con garantías importantes detrás que les tranquilizan tanto a ellos en ese respaldo del BB como a nosotros.

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Re: Articulo en Forbes sobre Grupper.

Mensaje por Admin el Miér Sep 12, 2018 9:54 pm

Ragagu escribió:Basta con que se lo sugieras ADMIN y fijo que toman nota. Eso ya sería la caña, tener un market place secundario o, como dices en tu post, que recompraran tu participación con descuento.



Ya lo hice nada mas acabar el post... Smile

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Re: Articulo en Forbes sobre Grupper.

Mensaje por Rodri el Jue Sep 13, 2018 12:39 am

Pues mucha suerte.
Yo, para la página de My investments, les sugerí algo tan básico como poder ordenar por columnas (pinchando en cada campo de la cabecera), añadir el habitual campo "next payment date" y elegir cuántas filas mostrar por página (o "show all") pero los programadores de esta gran plataforma de gestión todavía no lo han considerado relevante...
En eso del Secondary Market espero que no te contesten "pídeselo a Housers" jajajaja

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Re: Articulo en Forbes sobre Grupper.

Mensaje por nomoney el Jue Sep 13, 2018 2:57 am

Rodri escribió:
... añadir el habitual campo "next payment date" ...

También me gustaría tener esta funcionalidad.

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Mensaje por peterk2 el Jue Sep 13, 2018 9:24 am

Rodri escribió:Pues mucha suerte.
Yo, para la página de My investments, les sugerí algo tan básico como poder ordenar por columnas (pinchando en cada campo de la cabecera), añadir el habitual campo "next payment date" y elegir cuántas filas mostrar por página (o "show all") pero los programadores de esta gran plataforma de gestión todavía no lo han considerado relevante...
En eso del Secondary Market espero que no te contesten "pídeselo a Housers" jajajaja

Eso no tiene que ver con los Devs sino con el Product Owner de la página web

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Mensaje por drarenas el Jue Sep 13, 2018 11:49 am

Yo tambien les envio sugerencias de mejora, pero como el que oye llover...no dudo que lo vayan mejorando poco a poco, pero son leeentos.

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